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with their own quarantine rules. those rules are different from what the cdc guidelines were that were specified yesterday. the president has an opportunity to get a handle on things, get a handle on this public mindset that things are all over the place right now. and the ebola response coordinator, that is a question keeps coming up over and over again. they say he's doing a lot, but we haven't seen it. >> to all of the points, you know. how does the president handle this? how does he address this head on? >> if you look at the polls, about half the american public says we're doing an okay job or good job on handling this. we're seeing a lot of mixed signals. the question of mandatory quarantines, lots of democrats
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are now talking about travel bans. how does the president feel about that? what are you going to do about military quarantines coming back. these are lots of issues that have yet to be delineated quickly. i would argue what he's trying to do right now and i've covered him in a political context. i no e this. he's trying to get his arms around this situation and figure out how to best manage it before going out there and speaking to the american people and to reporters until he has all the answers to the questions. i think that's what they're trying to do. and the more specific the president himself can be about what he intends to do about some of these quarantine and travel ban issues, the better off it will be for him. >> let me stay with you, too. i'd like to ask dr. murphy a question. dr. murphy, let me bring you in.
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i know that -- i know that you had said and i believe quoting you offhand, the issues -- and when it comes to quarantines and policy, et cetera. i believe you said it was like the theater of the absurd. how do you mean? and what would you like to hear from the president? >> well, what i would like the president to do is to take charge of the situation. we actually -- this is not an unknown. we actually know how to deal with it. and one way to deal with the potentially lethal disease is to have somebody in charge of the whole public health effort, both on this side of the atlantic and as well as at the source in africa. and we don't see that. and i think that's what's confusing people. and you just mentioned it. every state now has their own guidelines as to how to treat people coming back from west africa, including our own citizens who have just volunteered. >> so whose fault is that? is it really ultimately up to the president? i know the cdc to a degree is
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handicapped. here he is, the president of the united states. >> everybody, i just want to offer a quick update on ebola and a number of the issues that have been raised. we know that the best way to protect americans ultimately is going to stop this outbreak at the source. and i just had the privilege of speaking with some of the men and women who are working to do just that. our disaster assistance response team on the ground in west africa. first and foremost, i thank them for their incredible dedication and compassion. these are the folks that from the minute that we saw this ebola outbreak growing larger than we'd seen traditionally were deployed, were on the ground and were helping to coordinate the countries where the outbreak is happening to make sure that the response was effective. and it's typical of what america does best.
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when others are in trouble, when disease or disaster strikes, americans help. and no other nation is doing as much to make sure that we contain and ultimately eliminate this outbreak than america. we deployed this team back to west africa in early august. they're now the strategic and operational backbone of america's response. they've increased the number of ebola treatment units and burial teams. they've expanded the pipeline of personnel and equipment and supplies. they've launched a campaign in country. the bottom line is that they're doing what it takes to make sure that medical personnel and health care workers from all countries have what they need to get the job done. it's starting to have an impact. based on the conversations i had today with them, they're starting to see some progress in liberia.
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and the infrastructure is beginning to be built out thanks to the incredible work and dedication of folks from the united states who are leading the way in helping liberia, guinea, and sierra leone. it's critical we maintain that leadership. the truth is that we're going to have to stay vigilant here at home until we stop the epidemic at its source. and for that, we're going to need to make sure that our doctors and our health care professionals here in the united states are problem properly tra informed and they are coordinated if and when an ebola case crops up here in the united states. but what's also critically important is making sure that all the talent, skill, compassion, professionalism, dedication and experience of our folks here can be deployed to help those countries deal with this outbreak at the source.
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that's why yesterday the cdc announced new monitoring and movement guidance that is sensible based in science. and tailored to the unique circumstances of each health care worker that may be returning from one of these countries after they have provided the kind of help that they need. in fact, tomorrow, i'm going to have a chance to meet with doctors and public health care workers who have returned from fighting this disease in west africa. i i to make sure we're getting input from them based on the science and facts and experience about how the battle to deal we bow la with ebola is going and how our policies can support the incredible heroism they are showing. we don't want to discourage our health care workers from going to the front lines and dealing
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with in an effective way. our teams here are getting better prepared and trained for the possibility of an isolated ebola case. we've got to make sure we continue to provide the support of health care workers going overseas to deal with the disease where it has been raging. it's also important for the american people to remind themselves that only two people so far have contracted ebola on american soil. the two dallas nurses who treated a patient who contracted it in west africa. today, both of them are disease-free. i met with one of them, nina pham last week, and she is doing wonderfully. and i just had a chance to get off the phone with amber vincent. who is on her way back home and also, as many of you saw in her press statement today is doing well also.
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of the seven americans treated for ebola so far, all have survived. right now, the only american still undergoing treatment is dr. craig spencer who contracted the disease abroad while working to protect others. and we should be saluting his service. and we are focused on getting him the best care possible, as well. and our thoughts and prayers are with him. meanwhile, the west africa nations of senegal and nigeria have been declared ebola free. that's in part because of outstand i outstanding work led by americans working in coordination with those countries to make sure we did not see an outbreak there. so the point is, this disease can be contained. it will be defeated. progress is possible. but we're going to have to stay vigilant and we've got to make sure we're working together.
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we have to keep leading the global response. america cannot look like it is shying away because other people are watching what we do. and if we don't have robust international response in west africa, then we are actually endangering ourselves here back home. in order to do that, we've got to make sure that those workers who are willing and able and dedicated to go over there in a really tough job that they're applauded, thanked and supported. that should be our priority. and we can make sure when they come back, they are being monitored in a prudent fashion. but we want to make sure we understand that they're doing god's work over there. and they're doing that to keep us safe. and i want to make sure every policy we put in place is supportive of their efforts. because if they are successful, then we're not going to have to worry about ebola here at home.
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america in the end is not defined by fear. that's not who we are. america's defined by possibility. and when we see a problem and we see a challenge, then we fix it. we don't just react based on our fears. we react based on facts and judgment. and making smart decisions. that's how we have built this country and sustained this country and protected this country. that's why america has defined progress because we're not afraid when challenges come up. thanks to our military, our dedicated medical and health care professionals, the men and women who i spoke to today in west africa, that leadership and progress continues. and we're going to keep on making progress, and we are going to solve this particular problem just like we solved every other problem.
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but it starts with us having the confidence and understanding that as challenging as this may be, this is something that will get fixed. in large part because we've got extraordinary americans with experience, talent, dedication, who are willing to put themselves on the front lines to get things done. i'll have more about -- more to say about this tomorrow when i have those workers here. i wanted to emphasize how proud i am of the people who are already involved in this effort and how confident i am after speaking to them that, in fact, we're going to get this problem under control. all right? thank you. >> are you concerned, sir, there might be confusion between the quarantine rules used by the military and health care workers in some states? >> well, the military's in a different situation, obviously. because they are first of all not treating patients. second of all, they are not
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there voluntarily. it's part of their mission that's been assigned to them by their commanders and ultimately by me the commander in chief. so we don't expect to have similar rules for our military as we do for civilians. they are already by definition if they're in the military under more circumscribed conditions. when we have volunteers who are taking time-out from their families from their loved ones and so forth, to go over there to tackle a difficult job we want to make sure when they come back, we are prudent, we are making sure that they are not at risk themselves if we do, we're just putting another barrier on
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somebody who is already doing important work on our behalf. that's not something we should see happen. thank you, guys. >> and away he goes to marine one for a campaign stop. but before he went, the president speaking for at least, you know, ten minutes there, specifically on ebola. we've seen that second nurse from dallas treated at emory medical in atlanta. he had just hopped off the phone with her. and also just mentioned vigilance, that we should not be discouraging these wonderful people from going overseas to volunteer to help, really, ground zero where this ebola epidemic has existed in west africa. i'd love to talk to my guests, dr. jeffrey drazen. and part of the question, that was the one question did take over this confusion over
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military guidelines versus state by state by state. the left not talking to the right. i would love to hear your opinion on this. how should this be working? >> so the cdc set up guidelines and revised them yesterday and made sense. the military's a different case. we haven't been on the ground with the military don't know where they've been deployed and what they are doing. while the people part of the medical teams, they are usually under supervision. we know what they're doing. the kinds of risks they're exposed to. further as the president pointed out, the members of the military are, in fact, in the military part of their deployment. while volunteers who participate in this action. and i will point out that mr.
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obama is correct, we're making progress. the world health organization had estimated by this time there would be 15,000 cases of ebola and fewer than that as far as we can tell. we're beating this back, getting source control. it's early in the game. but it looks like we're beginning to get the upper hand and need to maintain that momentum if we're going to win in the long run. >> okay. dr. murphy, i have more questions on this in just a moment. standby for me. gloria borger, i wanted to come to you because i think we were making the point earlier as far as what we would hear from the president and, perhaps, what we did not hear no mention of ron clain, the ebola response coordinator, the ebola czar, didn't mention him. how did the president do? >> look, i think what the president's trying to do is take this day by day. he said we're going to hear from him again tomorrow. . he's decided he's going to be
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aside from the cdc on this. he's going to be speaking directly to the country about it. and i think, look, his message was essentially don't overreact. we are getting this under control and his point was, don't punish people who are volunteering to go over there and who show no signs of disease when they come back. let's figure out a humane way to deal with all of this. and as you point out, he did differentiate between volunteers and those who served in the military, and i'm sure we'll hear about this from the department of defense some more. but, you know, i think this is a president who is saying, look, we're getting this under control at the source. i want to remind you that we haven't had as many cases here as we thought we were going to have. the people we have had are doing okay. you know, he mentioned the two nurses, for example. so, i think what he was trying to do is sort of say to the
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american public, we're getting ahold of this. we've got a lot more work to do. and by the way, don't punish the people trying to help us out. >> right. we heard that over and over. and in fact, we heard the president mention tomorrow, he'll be meeting with doctors who have returned and to get their input. >> the president hugged that nurse who was released. >> nina pham. >> that's right. last friday. the president is trying to make a point here. a visible point here that these health care workers dealing we bow la patients, that they're not to be feared. and i think to just jump off of what gloria borger was saying, a subtle jab at chris christie when he said that these health care workers coming back from west africa should be respected and sort of welcomed back with open arms. he's drawing a bit of a distinction there between his attitude and the treatment of
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that nurse up in new jersey who was confined to a tent for about 72 hours before she was allowed to go to maine. and so i think the president as gl gloria was trying to say, don't be fearful. the president is on top of this. and only two people have contracted this in the united states. they are very much concerned over here, brooke, about an outbreak of fear and worry in the country. much more, i think, than they are about an outbreak of ebola. they think they are on top of it. and as long as they can put this to rest in west africa, it'll take time. they'll defeat it at home, as well. >> jim acosta at the white house. thanks, you two, very, very much. doctors, gentlemen, stay with me. a lot more for you. a lot of questions, including additional confusion around ebola. why can't all of these health officials get on the same page? is that possible? i want to delve a little deeper into that with you two who know this so well. and also, nurse amber vincent. we heard the president say he
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just got off the phone with her. she is that second dallas nurse who was released and hugged by many medical professionals there at emory. you will hear straight from her how she's feeling, how is she doing today? a big, big day for her. stay here. sweered lobster'sory! endless shrimp ends soon! the year's largest variety. like new spicy siriacha shrimp, or parmesan shrimp scampi. as much as you like, any way you like. but it won't last long, so hurry in today. and sea food differently.
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just before the president spoke, we had heard from amber vincent, the dallas nurse free of the ebola virus before
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walking out of emory university hospital today in atlanta, she said this. >> i want to sincerely thank the professionals who have contributed to my care here at emory health care and at texas health presbyterian hospital dallas. as a nurse and now as someone who has experience d what it's like to be cared for through a life threatening illness, i'm so appreciative and grateful for your exceptional skill, warmth and care. >> vincent was one of those two nurses infect eed with ebola in dallas. that other nurse nina pham was released from nih on friday. both contracted ebola treating this man, thomas eric duncan who got sick and ultimately died from the disease. and from diagnosis back on october 15th to this smiling -- there it is, healthy face, 14 days later, emory, her doctor
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here had a couple of theorys on her relatively quick recovery. >> we have a couple of hypotheses. number one, they are two of the youngest patients who have been treated in developed countries for ebola virus disease. and, again, we know from a lot of data coming out of africa that younger patients do much better than patients who are older. the other hypothesis we have is, again, that she was wearing personal protective equipment during the care of her patient in dallas. and therefore, it is quite likely that the amount of virus she was exposed to was substantially less than what we see in patients who get infected in less developed countries. and we also know that the higher the viral load that you get infected with, the more severe your disease is likely to be. >> let me bring him back in. we're thrilled to have the new england journal of medicine
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editor in chief. doc, welcome back and thanks for hanging around with me. let me begin with what we heard from, you know, emory. the fact, i'm curious if you felt the same way as far as fairly quick recovery, diagnosis and some 14 days later. this healthy smiling face we saw today. >> yes, it's wonderful. it shows that if you identify the disease early in appropriate care that patients can survive. and as you pointed out, amber is relatively young, and that was a factor in her favor. i'm glad to see she's out of the hospital and feeling well. >> you know, in reading about some of the comments you had made in understanding ining ebr blood no longer -- it's ebola free. but you studied this german man. and even though he was ebola free, there was no ebola in the blood, it was detectable in his sweat. can you explain that to me with any of the individuals that have been sick? >> so, this is a case that we
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reported. i can't say i studied him. he was a -- is a person in germany who had been working in west africa, became infected and was evacuated to a german hospital where like the hospitals we have in the u.s., they were well prepared for treating a patient we bow la with ebola, and he became very sick during this time. he had severe illness and had respiratory and kidney failure. but with good backup care, he survived. and there's a couple very important lessons we learned from this patient. one is that he received no experimental treatment. it was his immune system that conquered the virus. and when he was in the hospital, in their care, they measured the amount of virus in his blood every day. and it was very high to begin with. but as his immune system kicked in on about the second week of the illness, his antibody level
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went up. and at the same time, the level of the virus in his blood fell dramatically, down to undetectable levels. but, it persisted in a number of sites, including sweat on his skin. and they kept him in the hospital under close watch to see what would happen. and it turned out that they couldn't get the virus to grow from that material. they could only bring it up by this very sensitive molecular test. and the current thinking about this is remembering it's only an anecdote is this represented the dna from a dead virus that they were able to bring up rather than a live, infected -- he left the hospital and is doing well. >> it's incredible. >> this example taught us that you can recover from this illness but still have some signs of transmissability. but we believe it's probably not actually a contagious illness. >> it's incredible. it's incredible. and hearing the president.
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i think he even said it twice. it's so important to treat this disease at the source. and so i'm wondering what you know since you are in the know. what's the latest on the vaccine? >> so there are a number of vaccines that are in trial. there were some trials started at the end of september and the beginning of october in normal volunteers. and these are vaccines that were developed by the national institute of allergy and infectious disease in concert with glaxosmithkline. and one is for the virus that's circulating in west africa and the other is for that virus plus the virus that's been found in central africa about a few thousand miles away. and in these studies, normal volunteers were injected. and the first thing the investigators looked for were reactions to the vaccine in terms of fever or other signs. we haven't heard much about that. so we're guessing, still guessing, that there wasn't a
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lot. but at six weeks is when the data comes out on their immune response to the vaccine. and what we're all hoping, we have our fingers crossed. >> fingers and toes crossed. >> that the vaccine will have a big immune response. both what we call a humeral and cellular response. the data suggests that it will. this is more like chickenpox. this appears to be an illness where you develop an immune response to it and conquer the illness. i want to be clear is what we don't know is whether it will be like chickenpox once you get it you can't get it again. we have to work that out. but we do know that the patients who have survived have been ones where there's been an immune response. and the german patient was very informative because he got no other treatment. no zmapp or antivirals. it was his immune system on its own that did the work. >> it is incredible. >> that's good news.
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>> the science of all of this. let's stay in touch. we'd love to have you back to see what happens in a matter of weeks with fingers and everything crossed. of the new england journal of medicine. yes, keeping them crossed right here. thank you so much, sir, from cambridge, massachusetts, truly appreciate you joining me. i do want to stay on ebola. what is the protocol for health care workers returning from africa? it depends on what state you're in. and the state has its own guidelines. why isn't there one standard? i know a lot of you are wondering that. we'll get the answer and another big story we're following for you. people in kobani, that border town, right? syrian turkish border town. the u.s. has tried to help them from the sky. and now new forces could help them from the ground. we're live in iraq. i'm only in my 60's.
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the president himself was asked about that. and one question he took at the top of the hour about mixed messages, about confusion when it comes to guidelines and protocol. the cdc says asymptomatic workers should not be quarantined, but intensely monitored. then you have the pentagon putting their troops in quarantine in italy. they were just in west africa. and several states have no rules. they quarantined a person sick or not who has had contact with an ebola patient. there is some confusing guidance among aid groups. members of doctors without borders, for example, they are adamantly against putting returning, healthy ebola care givers into quarantine. >> so quarantine of a healthy aid worker who presents no
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symptom is not -- does not present a danger to the society. and the second concern, of course, is that because it creates the perception that the person is a threat, a danger to the community, it contributes to stigmatization. >> the group's protocol says, and i quote, return staff members are discouraged from returning from work during the 21-day period. and people need to regain energy. plus, the fear is they're more vulnerable to other infections that could mimic ebola. huh? with me now, an expert in marketing and branding, and dr. robert murphy is back with me, a professor of infectious diseases and director for center of global health. so, gentlemen, welcome, and dr. murphy, back to you. we have alluded to this a moment ago. now let's just loop back to it. can you just explain to the american people why so much confusion? and if there is a solution?
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>> well, there's confusion because you have leaders of different states telling you different things compared to what the president just spoke about. the president's speech, i thought was really good talking about going to the source, controlling the epidemic. we're starting to see the signs of progress. that's all terrific. cdc, revising their guidelines. if you land in newark, new jersey, you're going to get escorted by police cars to a tent outside the hospital. there's something wrong with this picture. if you land in chicago, that will not happen. we have a very different guideline here that's much more sensible. so what i think the president needs to go the next step and basically take over all the infection control for ebola. >> what are the reasons why, perhaps, he's hesitant in doing such? >> that's not the way public health is set up in the united states. it is public health is driven by the states. the cdc acts as a reference and
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a giver of guidelines. and they're very good. but they actually don't have the authority, the governor has incredible power to do whatever he wants to protect his state. that's states rights. but this is a lethal disease. it has all these consequences discussed already. including just now. we have to get over that. and i think the president probably can get the authority to do that, and he should. because there's no -- if you fly from europe, one of these volunteers comes and lands in chicago versus new jersey, there's a huge difference. and nobody is at risk. >> and i think -- >> why treat the volunteers like that? >> right. and i think the patchwork policy as i've read it, you know, referred to confuses the american public. and so, bruce to you, with your business cap on and the optics of all of this. if you were advising, like you would be advising multiple companies all working together. but in this case, you have multiple states, jurisdictions, federal, local, et cetera, that are not seemingly on the same
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page. how would you advise? >> you just said the perfect word. not seemingly on the same page. as a country, we are crying out for consistent clear information that we can understand, and we can respond to. the problem is that medical issues are dealt with with facts. it's science. but that's not how we make our decisions. we make our decisions based on emotional response. and so what we need is a clear, powerful, emotional message that tells us what we need to be afraid of. what we don't need to be afraid of. and then we back it up with the rtbs. reasons to believe. the facts that prove to us that what we're hearing is the truth. >> okay. just quickly buttoning this up with you, dr. murphy. isn't it true in a case of a pandemic or epidemic, this is not in the united states, that is when the direct federal mandate would come down. but thus far, it really is up to the states to figure this out. >> that's the way it looks. the president is trying to just
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got a major piece of news for you in the war against this terror group isis. this contingent of kurdish
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fighters has left northern iraq with the aim of joining the battle in the city of kobani. they'll be battling isis which has failed to capture kobani but has claimed the lives of several hundred isis terrorists. ivan watson joining me from the iraqi city of irbil where those fighters have left. ivan, when will they get there? do we know? >> well, they say tomorrow, but the fact is, this deal was announced more than a week ago and it's taken more than a week of negotiations and some open disagreements before this relatively small contingent of iraqi kurds departed. it's just 161 iraqi kurdish fighters that turkey has said will be allowed to transit through turkey to help reinforce the kurdish fiteghters. they've said they don't need men, they need weapons. and that's part of the deal. iraqi kurds are supposed to be
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bringing heavy weapons as part of this convoy to help their kurdish brothers battle the jih jihadi militants in that border town. >> we have been watching so closely the status of this town, this symbolic significance of this battle. ivan watson, thank you so much for me from iraq. i want you to look at this now. video of red hot lava in hawaii. creeping dangerously close to a number of homes there. live picture obviously on the right side from the skies coming down. we'll talk to martin savidge. he is live in a helicopter above all of this. we'll check in with him next. how much money do you have in your pocket right now? i have $40, $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? i don't think so. well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years, that retirement challenge
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first property. martin savidge. here he is flying high above the scene in the helicopter. tell me what you see. >> pretty remarkable scene for you to look at here live. 25 feet above here. looking down at the lava flow. this is what they call a breakout. you can see it flow. keeping in mind, most of this lava is actually moving on the
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ground. in the direction here. what we're going to do is follow that river and that's what it looks like. look how gray it is. you can feel the heat that is rising. see how it's transforming the landscape here, brooke. you can see the ugly scar it makes. and most of this lava burning through the vegetation. some areas, it's maybe a couple hundred feet wide and others 25, 30 feet, we're heading to the northeast directly. the loading edge of the lava flow. this is why today is going to be a critical day. it is literally within feet of the first home. and after that, it goes right into town. this is a natural disaster that's slow. not like a hurricane or like a tornado, but it's just as devastating. brooke?
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>> trying to hang on your every word here. the pictures tell the story. that is precisely what i was thinking. it's like you see a lot of these natural disasters and happens so quickly, wiping out people's homes, this is pain stakingly slow. martin savidge on the main island of hawaii. martin, thank you so much. wow. kids in school obviously can be pretty cruel. bullying class mamates for any reason. but now because of ebola? one family's story will infuriate you. guarantee you. that's ahead. you do a lot of things great. but parallel parking isn't one of them. you're either too far from the curb. or too close to other cars... it's just a matter of time until you rip some guy's bumper off.
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two brothers became the victims of bullying because of the fear over ebola. the boys' father tells news 12 that his sons were beaten and the word ebola was shouted at them. the case sunday investigation by the new york city schools and department of education which confirmed the incident. the city's school chancellor released this statement. we will not tolerate
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intimidation or bullying of our students in this moment when new yorkers need to come together. we're investigating this incident and take this very seriously. joining me are the two boys. they speak french. i do not. they are good enough to sit here and hang with me. charles cooper with the african advisory council who will speak on their behalves and also their dad. thank you for taking the time. i really appreciate it. if we can just begin with they've only been over here a couple weeks? >> three weeks. >> from senegal? >> yes. >> went to school. what happened? >> what happened is as soon as i take them to school in the first three days, they were made fun of by the children and started yelling ebola, ebola, ebola. africa, africa, ebola, ebola. >> they're not calling them by their names. africa or ebola.
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>> yes. >> it's easier to say ebola. ebola is not the name of my children. >> you have to be kidding me. >> yeah. >> it's infuriating. >> of course. and it ensued and it went from name calling to, you know, full-fledged assault on these two kids. >> what exactly -- so big brother here heard about his little brother who was being called names initially? >> yes. he went to the gym to play. we're done playing with you. you have ebola. you sit down. you sit down and they play and go to class but they don't want to play with them. nobody is close to them. what i don't like is beating. >> the beating. >> that's what i don't like. you don't have to beat anyone. >> of course not. >> it's universal law.
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beating someone is something else. >> and incident happened during lunch in which they were playing around and suddenly he was jumped by several kids that called him ebola. he screamed. his brother, his big brother, came to his rescue, and was jumped on also and the father came to pick them up that day. it's unfortunate this day in age that it's happening. i was telling the father that i'm very proud of him that he brought this to the media attention and came to the african advisory council to alert us and what we're seeing is more and more folks are coming out and saying this is happening to my kids. >> i read about the story this morning. i said to my producer, send me to staten island tomorrow. let's talk about the stigma and how members of the media can help. if i can just in my final remaining moments, could you ask
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your boys in french, do they want to keep going back to school? i had read this morning they said to you, dad, i want to go back to africa. >> i talked to them. >> they want to go to school? >> i naeed to find a new school. they okay. we know the french. we know the europeans. it's not a big nation. we have an organization here in new york. all we're doing here is to help the african people. we are here for everyone. >> final thought. >> at the end of the day no matter whether you're black,
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brown, yellow or green, we all want our kids to be safe. we all want our kids to go to school and learn and not feel threatened or bullied. this is what it's about. full-fledged outreach to the community. we're trying to educate folks on ebola and bullying. >> it's all about educating. i wish i could communicate to them and let them know how awesome i think they are. >> think they know it. >> there is a solution. you can fix things. >> it's ignorance. bottom line. thank you so much. thank you. i really appreciate it. we have to take a quick break. we'll be right back.
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60 seconds left to go. you see green. the number hitting 17,000 here just a moment ago. up 180 points before that closing market bell rings. that's pretty big. >> it's phenomenal considering how bad this month started. we've gained back everything that we've lost. it's stunning. i think people realize that corporate america is healthy despite the worries out there. >> what specifically would you pinpoint today for this? >> not really sure what's going on today specifically. we have facebook results coming up shortly after the closing bell. a lot of optimism about that. winners of the past couple weeks are still doing really well. apple is one in particular. there's really no major news event to explain why we've had this sudden pop. >> make sure you go to the best source for all money news and the latest numbers on wall
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street, cnnmoney.com. i'm brooke baldwin in new york. thank you for being with me. i'll be back here at 2:00 eastern tomorrow. to washington we go, "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. president obama cautioning the nation today that the u.s. will have to stay vigilant fighting ebola at home until the outbreak is stopped in west africa. i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." he says the army agrees with him and not president obama on how to fight ebola. no matter where you live, you better care. these are races that could shape the country for the next two plus years with just one week until election day, cnn will break it all down for you. also national news, trouble in paradise. a river of lava is just a few feet from people's